i didn't know whether the obama administration didn't know or they were hiding it. watching kathleen sebelius and marsha blackburn. no one stands up and says i'm sorry unless they're sure their job is protected. >> i will say this, we didn't find out the answers to things like why they went live, why it was such a failure, why you would push such a failure at that time. there is value in grandstanding. if that means you're holding a mega phone up to expose something to the public. i'm not suggesting yesterday was a successful example of that. >> i was going to say. >> grandstanding isn't a worthless exercise. it can serve a purpose. >> you use the phrase push the conversation forward. >> right. >> you're representing your teams. i don't feel like you did it yesterday. and it worried me about what's to come if this is the best you two can do in terms of coming together. >> this is why i separate the concept of grandstanding from what happened yesterday. i do not think republicans need to be in charge of the microphone of the megaphone on obama care. it is becoming se